Will Derrick Rose’s Lack of Personality Effect His Legacy?

Without a doubt, Derrick Rose is one of the most unique players in the league and one of the most unique point guards of all time.

He makes a strong argument to be the most athletic point guard we’ve seen since Magic Johnson, perhaps ever.

His game is constantly improving, he has led his team to the Conference Finals and won an MVP, all before he was 24 years old.

By no means am I denying how good he is nor how good he could be, but Rose is severely lacking something that the other stars in the league and the other stars that have come before him have in an abundance.

Personality.

You always hear commentators talking about how Rose’s facial expression never changes whether he’s 0/20 or 20/20, whether he has just dunked on someone’s face or missed a buzzer beater. They say how they admire this, but it never seemed right to me. I just dismissed it as him holding a killer poker face, that was until I saw his comments made following the recent All Star Game in Orlando.

When Rose emerged up the steps during the Eastern Conference All Stars announcements, he was the only guy without a smile on his face. He looked like a kid that had been dragged to the supermarket by his mother.

LeBron James, Dwight Howard, Dwyane Wade and Carmelo Anthony were all smiling, waving and dancing away as Rose stood there like he was above it all.

“There’s a time and place for that and I don’t think it was right, then and there”.

Excuse me?

“There’s a time and place for that and I don’t think it was right, then and there”.

One more time, I must have heard you wrong.

“There’s a time and place for that and I don’t think it was right, then and there”.

There’s a time and place for dancing, but a glorified exhibition game as voted by the fans where you emerge on a stage with smoke and fireworks with dancers and rappers all around you, is not the place?

A few ways I can attack this.

I can be overly dramatic and emotional sports fan guy:

Who are you Derrick Rose? Who are you to comment or criticise on what the others are doing? It’s an All Star Game buddy, zip it up. I didn’t hear LeBron or Dwight come out to the media asking why you were standing there like a sulking child, motionless as the rest of the building rocked out, so what gives you the right to have even the slightest sigh of judgement over your TEAMMATES enjoying themselves?

I can be show some respect guy:

You are the worst player of that starting 5, you are the only one that cannot perform for the crowd that voted you in, but most of all you take shots at those who did? Show some respect kid you haven’t gotten close to earning the right to say that kind of crap yet.

I can be obnoxious Chicago sports fan guy:

Unlike the rest of the stars out there, Derrick Rose respects the game. He doesn’t have time for any of that clowning around. He gets into game mode and has one goal in mind. I love what he said, shows he takes it more seriously than those other buffoons. 

I can be unbearable bandwagon guy (most of the country):

LeBron is a choker.

Let’s move past those cliches and onto the issue I brought forth.

Clearly Derrick Rose is never going to be the energetic, enthusiastic, outgoing sportsman that you either love or hate, but one way or another you feel very strongly about. He doesn’t have it in him. I don’t know what he’s like with his friends or family or girlfriend, but it must be early bed times in the Rose household, no fun going on there.

When you look back over time, what still resonates today is that the stars with the greatest legacies more often than not had a larger than life personality.

Michael Jordan was as known for his attitude, his will, his confidence and his competitiveness as he was for his play. Sure Rose has all of that, but he doesn’t talk about it. Michael Jordan never shut up about it.

Kobe Bryant is the same. Always gritting his teeth, talking at opponents, getting scrappy, yelling at teammates and coaches.

Then you have the opposite yet still hugely outgoing stars.

LeBron James is as friendly and free spirited a star as you will ever see. He has secret handshakes with every teammate he plays with, dances before, sometimes during and after games, plays with the media, pulls pranks on anyone in the building.

Magic Johnson had the golden smile.

Shaquille O’Neal and Charles Barkley were brutes who wanted everyone to know they were the toughest dudes on the court.

I can go on and on, but you get the point.

If you have a look at the greatest players of the past few decades, there are very few that are as guarded and downright boring as Derrick Rose.

So as sport evolves into this saturation of tabloid desires, as stars look to move to big markets for business opportunities and social media becomes more powerful by the second, will a star like Derrick Rose be considered less of a player than he is because he has no impact off the court?

Well at the moment, I can’t see it happening. Why? Because he is the darling of the league. Some people have the nerve to call him the best player in the league, or at least top 3. He isn’t the best point guard in the league, so that is ridiculous.

Everyone’s hate of LeBron has elevated Rose to a level he is not on.

However, once this wears off and we realise that Derrick Rose is less interesting than the Charlotte Bobcats, I can definitely see him losing a lot of the gloss he has collected en route to becoming one of the faces of the league. The fact he plays in Chicago, and on a very good team means that the decline won’t be so brutal or obvious, but I still believe it will effect his stance in the memory of those remembering his era in the NBA.

The most recent and relevant parallel I can draw to this is Tim Duncan. Duncan is a four time NBA champion. He is quite possibly the greatest ever at his position AND he is one of the most respected players in the history of the league.

He averages 11.3 rebounds for his career. FOR HIS CAREER. Add to that 20 points and 2 blocks and you’ve got one hell of a player. He is playing less minutes this season than any other season in his career and is still registering 15 points and 9 rebounds. If you average that out to his normal playing time, he’s above career numbers, at age 35.

Yet Kevin Garnett still holds a much greater reputation and standing, at least amongst the media and fans, despite having 3 less titles. Garnett is an amazing player and may even be on the same level if not better, but why is he such a household name and not Duncan?

I think a lot of it has to do with personality. Tim Duncan is a very quiet, very respectful guy who has been in the newspapers 4 times during his 15 years in the league. Those were the four championships. He never creates a stir, never gets in trouble, never calls anyone out. Duncan is a victim of his own demeanour.

KG could not be more opposite. Always in the papers, always yapping at the media, at the fans, at his teammates, at his opposition, at his coaches, at opposition coaches. Making gang signs to the camera, screaming during interviews, crawling down the court like a wild dog, fighting. He is outrageous. Love him or hate him, you feel strongly about him and everyone knows who is he and what he does.

I can’t say the same for Tim Duncan.

You can make the argument that he plays in tiny market of San Antonio, but KG was still a huge personality in Minnesota, LeBron was in Cleveland, Dwight is in Orlando, Barkley was in Philadelphia and Pheonix, the list goes on.

To those that really know their stuff, Duncan is as good as there has been. If Rose continues to improve as he has done, he could be on the level with some of the greats.

But in the end, the thing that separates stars from being all encompassing historic superstars is not necessarily their ability to play the game. It’s their ability to sell their game.

Perhaps it is harsh of me to say his sleeping pill of a personality will ultimately condemn his legacy to that of a lower standing, but surely you cannot argue that it will effect his popularity?

Does popularity have an impact on legacy?

Give us a smile, Derrick.

It may be for your own sake.

Topics: Boston Celtics, Carmelo Anthony, Charles Barkley, Chicago Bulls, Derrick Rose, Dwyane Wade, Kevin Garnett, Kobe Bryant, LA Lakers, Lebron James, Los Angeles Lakers, Miami Heat, Michael Jordan, Minnesota Timberwolves, Philadelphia 76ers, San Antonio Spurs, Shaquille O'neal, Tim Duncan

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  • 1life2live

    Don’t change for anyone Derrick! keep doing what you’re doing!

  • KayDud

    Derrick is a G, laughing and joking isn’t his thing all the time, so what ?
    We shouldn’t be critisizing his personality, playing the game and getting his stats up are all that matter. He makes his money whether he’s smiling or not. He’s Derrick Rose, not everyone else. Who are you ? Nobody .

  • EricWermes

    This writer is an idiot…so sick of you blasting on Rose all the time. Get a life stroke…
    Yeah its me again…not a top 3 player my a$$. Def best point guard in the league too. Crushed another big name last night too…man I’m i SICK of you. Your opinions are assanine, and your lack of knowledge of the game is ridiculous. Go back to school…jag

  • EricWermes

    where is the unlike button?

  • laurenmay101

    Who cares, everyone has a personality and why make him something he is not. At least he is honest and respectful of it, and other players in the league only talk highly of him. He is just being a professional, and as a young player holding his ground as an MVP, with a 14 year deal. Try doing what he does being always in the media….lastly he grew up working hard to get where he is now living in such a hard neighborhood, let him do what he wants to do.

  • Sam McPhee

     @EricWermes You dislike my writing so much yet you constantly keep coming back to the blog and keep commenting. I am glad you do so, I encourage discussion and welcome all argument, no matter how shallow or offensive it may be towards me because that is what makes this so much fun, so keep feeding me your hate, I love it.
     
    I am not sure where the stroke nickname came from nor do I understand what you meant by it but I remember you calling me it before so keep that inside joke between you and yourself.
     
    Blasting Rose all the time? Well if memory serves me correctly the last time you harped up at me over nothing was when I was writing something about the ridiculous comparison of Blake Griffin and Kevin Love and I snuck in a sentence about Rose that really was not overly critical. You immediately burst into tears over that tiny and mostly insignificant sentence, then when I tried to understand the thought process, you ran disappeared.

  • Sam McPhee

     @EricWermes The unlike button is the X in the top right hand corner of your screen, or top left if you use a Mac. Although unlike would mean you liked it in the first place, so perhaps you liked the title, then changed your mind after reading the contents.

  • Sam McPhee

     @laurenmay101 I understand all of that and it certainly holds some ground. Yes we have all heard of his struggles growing up and how respectful of a kid he is and blah blah blah that’s all great and frankly it’s refreshing, if true, because there isn’t a whole lot of superstars out there that act like he does.
     
    Before I make the main rebuttal to you, since you brought up his background as a reference to his demeanour, LeBron James grew up without a father, his mother was an addict, he was constantly moving houses, living in horrible apartment buildings, and it even got to the point where he and his mother were living out of her car. That carried on for several months before she couldn’t take seeing her mistakes and problems weighing him down and sent him to live with the coach of his elementary school football team. He lived with his coach and his family whilst his mother tried to put his life back together. That is one of the reasons he is so humble (despite what the media will have you believe) and why he is one of if not the most actively involved athlete in charity.
     
    That being said, I certainly respect that Rose takes the game seriously and he values respect and blah blah blah but seriously c’mon, it’s an All Star Game. His teammates are dancing and having fun, the music is pumping, the crowd is going crazy, there are dancers and singers all around you and he barely cracks a smile. I wouldn’t have had a major problem with it until he made comments and basically took a shot at LeBron and Dwight who were having fun and giving the crowd what they wanted, since they voted them in. It’s ludicrous from Rose really.

  • Sam McPhee

     @KayDud Well I was going to give you a reasonable answer and thank you for reading and commenting until you hit me with the cliche ‘who are you? nobody’ line. If someone is going to play that card they deserve absolutely none of my respect. Big man sitting behind a keyboard.

  • Sam McPhee

     @1life2live Not asking him to change because he’s clearly a stand-up guy and a great player, I have no problem with him not enjoying it like his teammates, but when he starts calling them out, then I have a HUGE problem with that. 

  • KayDud

    I’m actually a 16-year-old female just stating my opinion like you did. But I am definitely not asking for anybody’s respect, especially someone I don’t know. I don’t respect you or your opinion either, so we’re good. I wasn’t put on this earth for your respect. But you’re welcome : )
     
    & keep it up #DRose !

  • 1life2live

    @Sam McPhee -I didn’t see it as him calling them out. You are trying to put it that way.

    & yes you ARE asking him to change & be more like other players..but let me tell you one thing respectfully, weather he smiles or not.. everyone is still going to LOVE Derrick Rose. U0001f497

  • 1life2live

    @Sam McPhee -I didn’t see it as him calling them out. You are trying to put it that way.

    & yes you ARE asking him to change & be more like other players..but let me tell you one thing respectfully, weather he smiles or not.. everyone is still going to LOVE Derrick Rose. U0001f497

  • 1life2live

    @Sam McPhee -I didn’t see it as him calling them out. You are trying to put it that way.

    & yes you ARE asking him to change & be more like other players..but let me tell you one thing respectfully, weather he smiles or not.. everyone is still going to LOVE Derrick Rose.

  • EricWermes

    Hey Sam…sorry you did not get the premise of the word (stroke), perhaps you should “put another shrimp on the barby”. C’mon man… I’m sorry that I look past your vast NBA knowledge of being a 20 year old Australian and all. I should know better. You know I don’t see any comments with anyone liking what you say, or agreeing with it. I’m sure you wikipedia’d Bron Bron too….for some school paper or something. Get real. My knowledge comes from watching real basketball…growing up in the Jordan Area…look it up if you haven’t heard of it. Use your dial up connection and get back to me on that one, ok. I’ve been to two finals games, bulls/sonics, seen the rise and fall of a dyansty. You have Youtube, chatrooms, and books. You honor someone without a championship as the heir to what exactly? Do you even play basketball? I bet you don’t…are you the type of kid that plays PS3 and uses the Heat all the time and trys to score 100 with Bron? I bet you are. I’ve seen the lakers, celts, the bad boys…pssss tween you and me only that means the pistons, the bulls, the lakers again, the rockets before that. Great players, teams, legacies. You have seen nothing. Let me sit back have people like my comments and not like yours. You should invest in the unlike button, or are you scared? Perhaps I will start my own blog…and call it pedal of Roses or something….c ya kid.

  • Sam McPhee

     @KayDud You emanate every stereotype surrounding teenagers.

  • Sam McPhee

     @EricWermes You are a grown man, listen to yourself. I’m truly embarrassed for you. Don’t have kids.

  • Sam McPhee

     @1life2live You didn’t see it as him calling them out. So he is asked why he didn’t join them dancing and he basically they shouldn’t be doing that it’s inappropriate, how is that not him calling them out? He is disrespecting them, he is trying to make them feel bad for enjoying themselves as everyone else was and should be doing.
     
    People love Rose because they hate LeBron. He has been elevated to a position he is not on because people hate LeBron. When that wears off and Rose continues to bore the nation, his popularity will go down, I guarantee it.

  • Lupe

    I’ve seen D. Rose at the club and the man can dance and knows how to have fun. He said it wasn’t the time or the place and that’s his prerogative. But he also said he enjoys watching them all play…even said D. Wade is his favorite player to watch…where’s the lack of respect there?
    Not the best point guard in the league? How laughable! At least Skip Bayless agrees with you.

  • nisiandrew

    As a lifelong spurs fan i am actually surprised you mentioned Tim Duncan. But I have to agree Tim Duncan is by far the best PF of this generation but people will always disagree and say Kevin Garnett is better. KG is good possibly great but during this day and age success IS measured by championships (look at Lebron) The only problem is Tim Duncan achieved his success in a day and age where the media was not as connected to our lives as it is today. On top of that San Antonio Is a small market (despite having a population of 1133332) and the spurs fundamental play that continually leads to success doesn’t get the same attention that all the dunks of Blake griffin and Lebron do. Their daily interviews don’t hurt either

  • Sam McPhee

     @Lupe Haha have you really? That’d be a pretty cool thing to see. That makes the point even more heavy, if he can dance then bust a move D-Rose. I’m not saying he’s disrespectful as a person but I think they should have taken that as definitely disrespectful because he is saying what they did was inappropriate. 
     
    There is no worse insult you can give me in the world that hurts more than putting me in the same sentence as Skip Bayless. I don’t think I’ve ever seen that buffoon say Rose wasn’t the best, I just see him hating on Westbrook. It’s just my preference, point guards should be pass first players, low turnovers, high percentage low volume shots. Rose is not pass first, he takes wayyy too many shots and too many bad shots, he shoots something like 5+ threes per game even though he’s a very bad three point shooter. Yes he’s improved but he’s still bad. Chris Paul is a better shooter, better defender, better passer, better leader, better player.

  • Sam McPhee

     @nisiandrew  My biggest pet peeve in sports is people receiving credit when it is not due or people that deserve praise not getting it, that is why I try to advocate players and teams in small markets. So the Spurs and Duncan are certainly someone I will give as much credit to whenever I can. 
     
    This idea of championships as the measuring stick I feel really only emerged during and after Jordan, same with the idea of clutch. Now the two areas that defined Jordan’s career are how we analyse every player since, which to me is wrong. Every player is different, every situation is different, so why do we have to define every player under his criteria. Wilt won one championship but is arguably the greatest player/talent/athlete the game has seen. He put up numbers no one has ever nor will ever put up again. That was all anyone asked of him. Same with Oscar, Jerry West, Bill Russell, the emphasis wasn’t necessarily on championships, rather it was on their ability and production (although obviously Russell won a ridiculous amount of championships, yet you never, ever, ever here his name classified as one of the greats). So I think that applies to TIm Duncan, talent wise he probably isn’t quite the same as Karl Malone or maybe even KG in terms of what they can do on the court but his commitment to excellence, his leadership and his ability to produce consistently throughout his career is what brought him his success.
     
    I think I’ve gotten slightly off topic but since you seem like a well educated basketball fan I couldn’t help myself, given I don’t always get your kind on here.
     
    But you’re 100% right, he never got the coverage LeBron and Kobe got because he played in San Antonio, but I also think it was because that’s not his demeanour. He won’t put himself out there, he just goes in, does his job and thats it. Blake Griffin wouldn’t be getting this same coverage now if he wasn’t playing in LA AND if he wasn’t so charismatic. So in the end I think personality certainly has an effect on legacy, Duncan won’t be remembered how he should because he wasn’t the headline on SportsCenter every night.

  • KayDud

     @Sam McPhee
    And you exemplify the perfect idiot .

  • 1life2live

    @Sam McPhee Derrick chose not to dance. so what. it’s not a big deal. it’s true it wasn’t a dance show, it was a game. they had Pitbull & Nicky to take care of that part.
    & I like Lebron I had respect for D. Wayde until he started acting all cocky. he claims to be from Robbin’s Illinois yet everytime he plays or comes Chicago he acts all stuck up. Nobody wants to see that. that’s why everyone loves Derrick cause he’s not a show-off. he doesn’t walk around like he has an ‘S’ on his chest.

    But wait so this article isn’t really about Derrick Rose’ personality affecting his legacy, it’s about about how you think everyone hates Lebron James. I see.

  • Sam McPhee

     @1life2live  it wasn’t a big deal until he called out LeBron and Dwight for doing so. There was no need to do that. We all know he’s a nice guy and certainly much more shy than those two guys and he could have just said that.
     
    Well I think Wade thinks everyone is going to love him and thinks that he has some right to the United Center when he comes back so he plays with a little more swagger and probably arrogance because it’s his home town. 
     
    Your last statement is outrageous and basically nullified everything that was respectful before that. Not sure where you got that from but if that’s how you want to take it then go for it, but perhaps improve your reading skills.

  • Sam McPhee

     @KayDud the perfect idiot? thats a pretty shocking antagonym 

  • yiopiol

    Were you watching the Bulls game last night against the 76ers? He smiled at the end of that one. A very nice one at that. Oh, and I found this article too:   http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2011-02-19/sports/ct-spt-0220-bulls-derrick-rose-chicag20110218_1_derrick-rose-girlfriend-quiet-timeWho would have thought? In case you wanted to see him smile/chuckle a little bit….http://vimeo.com/16251709Have a nice day ~

  • yiopiol

    The “who” at the end of the link shouldn’t be included, sorry.

  • 1life2live

    @Sam McPhee
    I’m sorry. iI just got really annoyed.lol
    but you take care ok :)

  • 1life2live

    @Sam McPhee
    -I’m sorry. I just got really annoyed. lol
    but you take care ok :)

  • Sam McPhee

     @1life2live  thats ok i’ve come to learn Rose and Bulls fans are sensitive to him. you too

  • Sam McPhee

     @yiopiol I appreciate you going to the effort you did and producing a legitimate rebuttal. If he is as he says then that makes it even more peculiar to me as to why he couldn’t crack a smile or look like he was enjoying himself during the opening stages of the All Star Game. I’ve been him be playful with teammates and what not at times but it was just very odd to me he looked like a punished child and then called out LeBron and Dwight, so to speak. That was the biggest issue I had really, him calling those 2 guys out, or at least saying it was inappropriate.
     
    But maybe he was a small personality amongst smaller personalities and that’s why he acts like that around his girlfriend and mother. Or maybe he was completely uncomfortable in the All Star situation and is one of those people that only come out of their shell in controlled situations, either way it was a little disappointing because he’s so exciting on the field I and I’m sure many others would like to see that reciprocated a bit off it.

  • 1life2live

    @Sam McPhee
    I guess if you want to put it that way.. butan we’ve been waiting 12 years for something exciting to happen. I really can’t wait for us to win that championship & just go crazy! I really believe in these guys. Even president Obama believe in these guys that’s awesome!

  • 1life2live

    @Sam McPhee I guess if u want to put it that way. but man, you don’t understand, we’ve been waiting 12 years for something like this to happen! I really miss those championship celebrations.
    I really believe in this team. We are not too far from winning another championship. I mean even president Obama believes in these guys. that’s awesome!

  • Sam McPhee

     @1life2live  oh dude you’re preaching to the choir in terms of waiting for championships, sport has been my drug since I was 5 years old and during that time it took until 2010 for one of my teams to win a championship. As a Cavs fan, an Arsenal fan, a Dragons fan (rugby) I experienced 15 years of heartbreak after heartbreak, to the point where I am basically numb to the pain now, so I understand the desperation, although as a Bulls fan you’ve had your fair share of success haha.
     
    They’re still a trade away from really troubling Miami in my opinion. If they stay as they are I can’t see them really challenging Miami at all because the Heat have gotten so much better and the Bulls are about the same, but still definitely one of those three elite teams that are head and shoulders above the rest of the league.

  • EricWermes

    Your my kid sam…

  • EricWermes

    @Sam McPhee @Lupe
    Chris Paul…not in same class as Rose…he himself even knows it.

  • EricWermes

    Too Big, Too Fast, Too Strong

  • Sam McPhee

     @EricWermes then you should support me in whatever i do

  • Sam McPhee

     @EricWermes  @Sam  @Lupe you’re right, Paul knows he’s in a higher class

  • Sam McPhee

     @EricWermes Rose certainly is bigger, faster, I don’t know about stronger, but Paul better defender, better shooter, better teammate, better leader, smarter and way more efficient. I’ll take ability over athleticism. 

  • EricWermes

    show me when bron even takes that shot, let alone makes it. The kid is a legend in the making, get on with it or get out of the way. We will see where chris paul is at the end of the year….

    More talent then the bulls with blake griffen/caron butler, so lets see how far he gets.

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